The Mystery of Lost Lake of the Cajon Pass




It is not known to many people, but it is still possible to use the old highway up through a portion of the Cajon Pass. Present day highway 15 runs well above old 395 and Historic Route Highway 66. Such rustic areas as Blue Cut and Halls Ranch (Yes my Family again), and Sullivan's Curve still exist.

As you drive up the badly surfaced road from Devore (Use the Kenwood Exit from the Northbound 15 and make a left, pass under the 15 and then make a right on Cajon Blvd [old 395 & route 66]) you notice that for the most part you are driving on what would be the southbound lanes of the old 4 lane highway. As you come around the curve at Blue Cut you notice that there is now a mountain sitting over the right-hand lanes into the center divider. You might think that this is ample proof that the San Andreas Fault zone is alive and moving. But you would be wrong. It is actually the San Jacinto Fault Zone that straddles the highway. The San Andreas is still one mile ahead.
Two Faults zones so close together and visible? As you proceed north you notice that the entire area between the faults is moving to the north and at different speeds. Only 2 or 3 inches a year, but they are moving. So much so, that railroad crews from both the Union Pacific and Burlington Northern Santa Fe, have to go out twice a year and reset the tracks. Otherwise, the train tracks would bend out of shape, just like old 395 has.

As you proceed, you will see a sign that says 'Lost Lake'. It also says private road so most people ignore it and just keep heading up towards Sullivan's Curve. Sullivan's Curve by the way, is a favorite Train Watcher area and has also been the scene of several major train accidents over the years. The best way to get into this area is to exit highway 15 at Cleghorn Pass Road, make a left under the freeway if you are going north bound that is and then make a right on the first roadway you see. This will take you back to a triple track bypass area, a small yard, and the beginning of the lower end of Sullivan's Curve.

But if you take the time to make the left turn onto the dirt road and cross the triple set of tracks that tend to hide it's route, you eventually find a quiet little area that should not exist. For there are no streams, creeks or rivers that feed into Lost Lake. The water seeps up from beneath the ground. A direct result of two major earthquake faults zones passing within a half mile of each other.

Some say that Lost Lake has no bottom, that it feeds directly from the center of the earth. The water is also very cold, below freezing even in summer time. Fire crews have used its water supply to help fight fires, and they have never noticed a drop in water levels. It always stays the same, even in heavy rain seasons. And snow fall has no effect on it. But it has never frozen either.

Lost Lake is surrounded by lush grassy vegetation, some what like what you might see back in Kentucky or Tennessee. In fact Kentucky Blue Grass grows all around the lake.

As you drive further into the narrow valley you realize that both fault zones are coming together. All of a sudden you run into a wall of a mountain that blocks your way. You can climb up this 500 foot high rock fall and look out over the valley you have just passed through. To the northwest are the 10,000 peaks of Mt Baldy, Cracka Ridge and the Mountain High Ski area. As you hike through the area you become aware of how insignificant you are amongst the grander of the Fault Zones, the Mountains and the trees.

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Actually, there are reports of the bodies of clones at the bottom of the lake. It should be investigated forthwith.

Lost Lake in the Cajon Pass

if you you look at it from googlearth stand point. Its obvious that basin was full of water at one time.

Lost Lake

A biker club owns a house on Swarthout Canyon Rd. The mailbox gives them away. Down the road a bit is a Korean 24/7 Prayer Ministry. Been there to fast and Pray after I was rescued from SATAN. LOL Really... Some of us from Muscoy used to go up there from time to time to chill, etc. Ive seen some interesting people here before.

Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

As far as finding the depth of Lost Lake, it depends at what point you probe. I dove pretty deep in 2001 with no bottom in site. The warning is that there is thick undergrowth that one could get tangled up in. If you panic and thrash, it could keep you underwater. Could be the answer to questionable drownings.

Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

As children, my parents took us up to Lost Lake, hiking around the mountains, then a swim in the lake, we all had lots of fun, yes there was an returnees about it. You hear so many weird stories, my parents were childhood friends, they used to go to Lost Lake, and ditched school, that's where they went, they took us their as kids. I took my kids there, now its really gotten bad, too many dangers lurking there. Not for me anymore.

Lost Lake near Interstate 15

I grew up in Lytle Creek. I 've been to Lost Lake many times. It is a mysterious place indeed. I used to ride motorcycles around the lake in the late 70's. There were many trails at that time. I grew up seeing the bikers partying and raising hell out there. I've swam there a lot and heard a lot of stories about deaths and drownings at the lake and that it was bottomless.
I remeber as a boy someone built a sort of big long wooden diving board on the up canyon end of the lake. It was only their for maybe a year. Does anyone else remeber that?

Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

In the summer of 1961 my husband, his friend my cousin and myself decided to go spear fishing at night in Lost Lake (by Cajon Pass CA). My husband and his friend went underwater and speared orangish fish which we took home cleaned and ate.

They found the lake not to be bottomless they snorkeled around the whole lake with underwater lights. I hate to burst peoples bubbles... I am sure there are fissures which supply it with water though. The worst thing that happened to us at Lost Lake was that some dummies were shooting guns randomly and almost shot us one day.

We used to drive the back roads there with our dune buggies quite a bit.

Cajon Pass Lost Lake

i have been there once in my life and will never go back.the feeling i got when i crossed that river and felt that bone chilling cold water is a feelinf i can not explain. Lost Lake yea wont be goin back there again

Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

I grew up in Fontana in the 90's and have gone to Lost Lake for more than 15 years.

A good friend and I used to take our kids there and meet up in our classic v-dubs. I really love this lake however I hate the fact that some people disrespect it by leaving their trash and diapers and fish hooks in the water. If you go there please be sure to buy the nature adventure pass first (this pays for the tables and for the workers to clean up after those who trash the lake) for $5 or you risk getting a $60 fine!
Also BEWARE that the train viewpoint turnout on old route 66 that leads down the the creek is frequented by truck drivers, homosexuals and perverts looking to "hook-up" with one another, and not to allow your children to explore this area without adult supervision! Back in the summer of "08 my friend and I were followed by a creepy fat latino pervert in a white large chevy truck and he attempted to expose himself to us and our kids! Just be careful and If you are like me, young cute adventuring Mom, you should always carry a knife with you AT ALL TIMES!

Have fun and good luck!

Lost Lake

Yes, Lost Lake is a sag pond that filled up with water after the fort tejon quake of 1857. Totally bitchen area with so much history. I can understand exactly what many of you have said about a creepy feeling around the lake, an it being so dark. be careful all around this area. Many people have been reported missing from this area since the early 70s.. numerous bodies have been pulled from this lake. definiately a cool place. the lake sits directly on the san andreas fault. This area is constantly moving. The train tracks nearby are adjusted twice a year to keep the trains from derailing. From Lytle creek up through the cajon pass there are many hidden treasures. the mormen trail.. another great place so rich in history.

Lost Lake of the Cajon Pass

Urban legend. It is not bottomless. Lost Lake water supply is not visible above ground so people imagined it bottomless.

The entire valley was a lake in prehistoric times and underground streams and springs still exist. Ever see steam coming out of storm drains on E Street? That is from hot springs below the city. There are also tunnels once used by Chinese immigrants. Dad visited them often as a child.

Lost Lake was fun in the 50s and 60s. I grew up in the area and swam, hiked, camped, explored and panned for gold all over the area. By the 90s, it became the scene of gang activity, rapes, drugs and murders. I recommend caution if you visit the area.

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My mom used to go there as a kid, and so have I... It has definitely changed over the years and it really saddens me!! Where are the tunnels at that you mentioned and morman trails?? Never heard of them!!

Thanks-
Robyn.

Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

The tunnels' entrances have been closed for a long time and the artifacts raided by one of the town's mayors. One entrance was at the bank on E Street. Another was in the old Chinatown area. As for the Mormons, the Mormons traveled over the mountains in covered wagons ...there were no trails for the most part, they simply made their own. If you speak to my friend Ger Brassfield at the Historical Society, he can tell you exactly where the trails were located. The Historical Society is, I believe, at the main library. Mormon Rocks are the wonderfully large rounded boulders seen in Cajon Pass, where the Mormon Trail and railroad meet. Great climbing.

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I'm sorry, but the location of the trails are better known (and told) by Nick Cataldo, also of the Historical Society, which, incidentally, is located at the corner of 8th and D street. Nick has a once-a-year historical tour from the top of the Cajon Pass, down past the John Brown toll road, Mormon rocks, certain old route 66 stops, Blue Cut, and other interesting bits of informative stops. Look for the tour to be advertised around November in the Sun newspaper. Who is this "anonymous person who knows me.....

Lost Lake in the Cajon Pass

How do i get to the Lost Lake, and is there a fee?

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Its free

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215north get off kenwood.make a left.go up cajon pass until you get to your first left turn, continue going straight passing two train tracks, you will eventually see an opening in the road allowing you to turn right you will see a restroom and something that looks like its blocking you from entering but don't mind that just park walk up the little hill then there you are. Yes you need a mountain pass to park up there that u can buy at a gas station up there

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The Lat./Long. coordinates of Lost Lake are:
34.273, -117.4655
You can enter those coordinates at most map websites in their search box.

Lost Lake

The Lost Lake was beautiful! Almost impossible to find.

My very good friend took me there. He told me about how when he was younger he used to go four-wheeling at Lost Lake, and dive into the lake and go swimming. Two people told me that there was 2 or more "lost lakes". All I know is that when my friend took me to the lake, I had to look almost completely straight down. And I took pictures. It's beautiful.

I'm from Florida, and we have no mountains nor hills. So to see something like that was breath taking. We went close to the water. I would say that we climbed down but it was more like sliding down. I tried to climb back to the top by the golf course, but I kept sliding back down.

I thought that was a really nice surprise. Like a late birthday gift, or birthday surprise. :D

Drowned babies at Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

A co-worker told me that her two baby girls drowned in this lake in 1974. Has anyone heard of this?
I'm trying to help her heal from it and any information would be greatly appreciated.
Obviously the pain still exhists in her life, such a tragedy.

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I am her sister inlaw it did happen and was so tragic for all of us. Thanks for a friend and helping her with this. God bless you and of course her.

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Yes! I believe her and her huband were our neighbors! I believe I was 7-8 and everyone was so dad. My parents were chuck & Mary bowers.

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My dad took me & my 2 brothers to Lost Lake all the time and go fishing, shoot crawdads with bebe guns and smoke some bomb ass weed eventually when i became a pot head at 18. i just have so many memories there and enjoy every moment there thinking about the good times. my parents told me there is a school bus way way way down there at the bottom of the lake thats been there for years! i'd go swimming there too. can't wait to go fishing again.

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I want to know more about the history of lost lake prior to the 1900's and what other occurances has taken place since that time period.

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I've been to this area many, many times over the last 25 years. Still a great place to quail hunt. The lake is not very friendly due to steep banks and heavy vegetation. It's not called lost lake for nothing, it's almost like a hole that opened up with high steep banks enclosing it hiding it from view.

On the north side atop the steep bank over looking the lake there is (or was 10 years ago) a touching memorial to a young womon who passed away too young. Her family made a small cross that is hidden by the brush unless you right on top of it. It had a picture and a short eulogy, her ashes were left at the lake. Perhaps a fire or weather has taken it but it’s still in my mind. RIP.

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Sad, but kind of freaky that her parents would leave her ashes there where people go to have fun.

Lost Lake in the Cajon Pass

Taking my son fishing there today...let's see what happens! Maybe we'll catch ourselves an unknown species of fish....or an alien!

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i went about 6 moths ago and caught a catfish with my uncle only to be fined for not having an adventure pass...we saw small shad swiming around and that catfish but that was it

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why did you use your uncle as bait?

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why hasn't there been any research on this lake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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 Why hasnt there been any research?????

Because it's just a friggin lake!  That's why..

 

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you, most obviously, are not very smart

Cajon Pass Lost Lake

Yah, buhcuz everybody knows that all of the SMART PEOPLES believes in ghost stories, unicorns, and bigfeets duh!!

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Apparently spelling no long dictates intelligence?? I wish I could just figure out how to stop getting notices of idiot responses. Just keep comments to a logical response. No need for proof of dumb ass brain sources.

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WE USED TO RACE OUR DIRT BIKES AROUND THE LAKE IN THE LATE 70'S AND EARLY 80'S . WE CAMPED THERE MANY NIGHTS AND HAD SOME OF THE BEST TIMES OF MY LIFE . IT WARMS UP IN THE SUMMER AND GETS COLD IN THE WINTER . NO MYSTERY HERE . SOMETIMES IT OVER FLOWS A LITTLE . SOMETIMES IT DON'T . IT'S FED BY UNDERGROUND . WE HAVE CAUGHT CRAWDADS TROUT AND CATFISH IN THE LAKE . WHEN BIKER GANGS USED THE LAKE IT WAS THE ONLY TIME YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BE THERE . WAS REALLY NICE WHEN YOU COULD CAMP AND RACE DIRT BIKES RIGHT ON THE LAKE , BUT THOSE DAYS ARE GONE AND IT'S NOT LIKE THE GOOD OLE DAYS . O YEA , THE CRAW DADS USED TO TASTE REALLY GOOD !!!!

Man dies in Lost Lake

The mystery of Lost Lake deepens! A man died in Lost Lake yesterday (September 4, 2011) while swimming. For unknown reasons he began to struggle, then drowned.

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On Sunday, September 4, 2011, at about 2:40 PM, Alvaro Torres, a 31 year old resident of Los Angeles, was swimming with friends and family in Lost Lake. The area is a small recreational lake in the Cajon Pass, east of the Interstate 15 Freeway and north of Devore.

Friends say that while swimming he began to struggle. Friends attempted to rescue Mr.Torres, who was not breathing when he was pulled from the water.

CPR was initiated by bystanders until paramedics arrived at the scene.

Torres was flown by San Bernardino County Sheriff Department Aviation (40 King) to Loma Linda University Medical Center emergency room, where Mr. Torres was pronounced dead soon after arrival.

Torres’s parents live in Guatemala.

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Wow, a place that Huell Howser hasn't got to!

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It's about the ONLY place Huell Howser hasn't been to yet!

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How do we get some tv show crazy guy to dive it and record footage

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MY FATHER AND I LOST A NICE LURE SO WE GRABBED OUR SNORKEL GEAR AND WENT IN, FOUND LOTS OF LURES AND A UNOPENED COKE. THERE IS A BOTTOM I ASSURE YOU. NOTHING CRAZY ABOUT THE LAKE HOWEVER I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND CAMPING THERE. 3 PEOPLE GOT SHOT IN THERE SLEEPING BAGS WITH A SHOT GUN WHILE SLEEPING.

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I lost a very old metal fishing rod, hexagonal shaft. I was so bummed! It's probably still there, middle of the lake.

Shooting at Lost Lake of the Cajon Pass

The guy who allegedly did the shooting is dead -
Murder-Suicide Indicated in Deaths of 3 Campers
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-03-01/local/me-13133_1_san-bernardino-county
March 01, 1986|LOUIS SAHAGUN | Times Staff Writer
-The shotgun slayings of three campers whose bodies were found last weekend at a remote lake in the San Bernardino Mountains may have been a murder-suicide, authorities said Friday, but they have not determined a motive.
-The bodies of Craig Mabry, 26, and Kenneth McDow, 17, both of La Puente, were found Sunday in their sleeping bags at Lost Lake in Cajon Pass about 50 miles northeast of Los Angeles. An autopsy showed that both men died of shotgun wounds to the head, said Phil Alexander, San Bernardino County chief deputy coroner.
-Nearby, sheriff's investigators found the body of Kenneth Glass, 33, of Ontario, in the cab of a pickup truck submerged in 14 feet of water.
-Gun Found in Cab
-Glass, who had been camping nearby, died of a shotgun blast to the chest, Alexander said, and a shotgun was found in the cab. An autopsy found that "the barrel of the shotgun was sticking in his chest when the trigger was pulled," he added.
-Investigators said shotgun shells found on the ground next to Mabry and McDow matched shells found in the cab of Glass's truck and in the chamber of the shotgun.
-The windows of the pickup truck had been rolled up and its doors closed when it entered the lake with the ignition on.
-"Every bit of evidence we have so far points to Glass having shot those guys, then committing suicide," said sheriff's spokesman Jim Bryant. "But we still do not know if Glass knew those guys before."

Lost Lake in Cajon Pass

I THINK IT IS A PORTHOLE INTO AN OTHER DIMENSION.

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Power lines over a body of water create a electromagnetic anomaly.

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I was at the Lost Lake yesterday with my son who was visiting for the second time-first time with a school tour. The first thought that struck me was what a weird and unusual place for a lake to be. It seems to be in the middle of nowhere. It was dry land everywhere except for the lake location. It is a true oasis. Another thing I noticed is the clearness of the water. The water is as clear as can be. Around the edges, one can actually see the bottom of the water; that's how clear the water is. This will strike as odd judging by the length of time it has existed. It is in its natural state. No modernization or improvement has been attempted to make it a standard park. That is strange. It is eerie around the lake. The name "Lost Lake" befits this body of water. I wonder how it was discovered. It is actually in a place you don't expect water to exist. It seem to be flowing south while it's not. It is rather a small lake. It never dries up. You would expect a little body of water like that to dry up in the dry summer California heat. Not so. the level remains the same at any given time. The question is if there is a continuous flow of water from under the earth, why does it only replace or content with replenishing any taken amount and not overflow to form a stream, river or a bigger lake? It seems to have a natural overflow system or device in place. Another question is, if it is really flowing from the center of the earth, why is not hot or warm? Another strange observance is the absence of tell tale signs of approaching a body of water. It is dry land and brushes as usual and whooeh!! you are at the edge or about to run into it.
Is there water in the center of the earth? If so, why has the lake never frozen but always cold as was noted by someone? We were taught that the core of the earth is molten or liquid and immensely hot. Shouldn't hot lava be seeping out of the lake instead of cold water it were truly connected to earth's center? Is this lake a ticking time bomb and a ready avenue that may one day provide an easy outlet for a silent serious volcanic lava flow that may insidiously overtake a large area unnoticed. Has a diver ever been sent down there to explore the depth? There is something strange about that lake alright. Why has it not been developed into a park? Why is the public not warned of its depth? Does anyone has any true info. regarding this lake?

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The valley was under water in prehistoric times. Underground hot springs and cold water streams still exist throughout the area. While the water table flows between tens and hundreds of feet below the surface, it does not go to the Earth's core. It does go deep enough to be very cold and very pure.

Volcanic activity occurred in ancient times ... small cinder cones can be seen in the high desert. Far as I know, what little volcanic activity occurred there ceased many many hundreds ...indeed, thousands ... of years ago

Yes, divers have explored the area. Sheriff search and rescue trained up there and have made many trips to recover vehicles and bodies. The lake is not bottomless; that is an urban legend started by the fact Lost Lake's source is not visible above ground.

It has not been developed because it is small ... too small to support formal recreational facilities. It could not generate enough money to make it worthwhile.

Hope this helped answer your questions.

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My boyfriend scuba dived in Lost Lake around 1964 and it is at the deepest 25 feet. No it is not bottemless. It is impossible to be bottomless. Around 1962 it was very low and the same boyfriend rode across the bottom on his motorcycle.

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Sorry, but according to the fish and game warden in the area the lake has never been drained.. It fills up as fast as water is scooped away for fires.. You must be mistaken that your boyfriend rode his motorcycle along the bottom of Lost Lake.. According to california records this was formed by an earthquake in the early 1800s. The seismic activity caused a crack very deep that filled this area with water. research it..

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Never said it was drained! I said it was low enough to ride the motorcycle across. It is a sag pond on the San Andreas fault. My boyfriend was a geology major and gives a lecture at the lake once a year as part of a Cal State San Bernardino class discussing the subduction zone where the Pacific Plate dives under the North American Plate. He has studied the lake and surrounding area since 1958. the earthquake you are most likely referring to was the 1857 quake that caused a rip in the topography of the surrounding area. The Fort Tejon earthquake of 1857 occurred at 8:20 AM PST Jan 9. Length of surface rupture was 225 miles with a maximum offset of 30 feet. They estimate it was about a 7.9 quake. Things change you know. I saw the water in the Santa Ana River splashing up over the bridge to Riverside by Fairmont Park in 1968 and now there is hardly any water above the surface. The Santa Ana River also wiped out the town of Agua Mansa when the water filled from bank to bank on Jan. 31st of 1862. Things change.

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